Precious Plastic Version 4? 😮
You might have been aware that we launched Precious Plastic Version 3 a few months back. Maybe. We made many new things, introduced the bazar, container workspace, a series of art objects, a map for collaboration, more techniques and a way for the community to share their own tutorial videos. Quite a lot. Our main focus for this version was on expanding the platform and making it easier for people to collaborate.
This period is really fun for us. Seeing what the community, you guys do with the information. Always exciting to see if its used the way we intended. But besides observing we also gather feedback, comments, posts, topics we see or improvements we could do. And I can’t help myself, but slowly I think about what a V4 would look like.
So thats where this topic is for. To share your ideas, suggestions,improvements. What would you like Precious Plastic to work on and improve next? Throw it in here! Together we set the course 💪
*Oh and I might look inactive every now and then because i don’t leave a reply but I read all of it. No kidding.
Hi, I’m thinking in making cheaper shredder for sale with a foldable framework so the shipping cost will be lower, in add the motor gear reduction could be buy with double axis exit, so it will be possible use the same motor for shredder and extrusion, without chains or belt, in add it will be possible to make plastic balance bikes for kids just using a plastic board (with CNC router work) or disrectly with apposite molds.In 2 months I will return in Italy and start to work on it.Toggle replies
I contact Muzzi Cycles ( http://www.muzzicycles.com.br/muzzicycles-English/ ) it’s a brasilian company that made bike frame from recycled plastic, the say it’s possible to speak about make bicycle in europe and I thing that you (Dave) could speak with them, This could be a very big step for who want to do something bigger. I hope it could help…[email protected]Toggle replies
I’m developing a shredder that can be built without welding, as that’s something people may find hard to source. Also it’s straightforward to make it hand cranked to be powered by the hands. Maybe for v4 we can come up with the ultimate pedal powered version? I know some people have tried it and I’m trying to build it but it adds complexity mechanically so not too cheap
Maybe an open source vacuum former?
Well my best idea / massively big project for v4:
A MOVABLE PRECIOUS PLASTIC WORKSHOP
The problem: People all over the world want to sort out their plastic problem. Specially in very remote places, it’s hard to source the machines or its parts, or it’s very expensive to do it.
The solution: Take the idea of the shipping container seen in v3. Build another one. A bit more ‘rugged’ (more ‘heavy duty’, capable of processing high volumes of plastics, of all thicknesses. Shredder, I’m looking at you), basically the shipping container workshop, on steroids. Do a crowdfunding to fund it. Send the shipping container to one of these remote places, and let the people there work on it, process their plastics. Maybe charge them a small amount for the delivery of the container and a rental fee per month. When they have cleared their local area from plastics, deliver the container somewhere else in the world. Repeat until the ocean, our beaches and mountains are clean 🙂
A bit ambitious but we are big dreamers backed by an awesome army of supportersToggle replies
Has anyone looked into using for Fresnel lenses for smelting the plastic no shredding needed and you can do it in high volume also 3D printing using Extrusion possibly a hand-crank shredders for those that are off grid like me and pyrolysis a lot of this plastic can also go to fuelToggle replies
I think we need v3.1 before 4 because rapid prototyping is better than yearly releases
public bench seems like perfect awareness tool being a blend of function and showing the possibilities with recycled plastic
I am not a 3d modeler but think to have a wiki open source machine development could help people use information well and contribute. Open source ecology is trying to fill out its machine line up and has used wiki model with a global volunteer dev team. Using their power cube think a hydraulic press could produce wide range of products
like a 3d printer should be able to print another 3d printer, a plastic workshop should be able to make another plastic workshop. I think possibility of making a workshop entirely out of recycled plastic would be ideal (obviously need some metal for machines but could limit inputs needed)
I think we need to look at more cradle to cradle ideas and partner with organizations like living building challenge who has a red list of hazardous materials in the building industry, for example by getting rid of flame retardant plastic could help eliminate a large percentage of plastic avoid the landfill.
Big picture a global plastic coalition could be very meaningful, I personally believe corporations will need to be forced by governments to account for environmental cost. Locally I think we need to move pick up locations closer to existing retail just like grocery stores who are forced to recycle plastic bags. Amazon / Fedex lockers could have pick-up for plastics and cardboard and paper.
“If you want to go fast go alone, if you want to go far go together”Toggle replies
1. A dedicated learning area filled with tutorials and access to information for plastics training. ( 3d modelling to make moulds)
2. Sheet press machine plans
3. group function so i can broadcast a message to friends or mini army to organise events ( promote precious plastic days or recycle days or beach clean ups etc..)
Definitely make a cheaper version of the machines. A lower price will allow people, who do not have the financial stability to normally buy it, to join in. More recyclers will make machines to help spread the community.
If Version 4 was focused more on building a new machine, like a washer, people would be less able to successfully fund them.Toggle replies
how do you think you can make it cheaper?
all info is free even locations were you can find cheap 2e hand things are mentiont i agree its not cheap to build all machines but it is the cheapest i found by far
i think more machines are beter then resech for even cheaper machines, if the machines are hard to make it sows dedication and more thinking of your own what you can post to help others
i myself am making machines with no money no experiance just picking up scrap metal from streets and trade it at the junkyard it took me one month to buy lasercutted parts from Manuel ( @mr-hirn ) and an axl from @andyn and boucht 2 bearings from china for 5 euro each
the laser cutted parts are not stainless steel and not cleand to get it cheaper
i got a cuttingtable for free becouls it was damaged but motor works fine
so now im relaying on the people from the forum and my own imagination to make it work
Hello everyone, for the version of Precious plastic 4, we from Colombia want to propose an idea related to the social impact in communities, so we want to share a work method that we have compiled with some years of work in vulnerable communities, and based on various topics ranging from: social innovation, circular economy, human centered design, circular design guide, and human scale development.
Because, we believe in the great potential that this project of Precious plastic has in the whole world, and likewise, the responsibility that involves consciously working with communities, understanding their dynamics, and the conditions of each context, precisely to guarantee different ways of sustainability and that the communities are empowered with this technology that can generate great changes for a better future from the social, the environmental and the economic.
We know that there are already several cases within the community, including the Kenyan project.
then, we left the subject to open discussion, to build among all different ways that allow to grow and strengthen the initiative of Preciosu Plastic.
Check out the topic I created about expanding global impact with a business plan https://davehakkens.nl/community/forums/topic/business-plan-proposal/Toggle replies
What’s about a Wikilike thing…
With different group writer and approuver of article.
Forum is very good but have some limitations when growing very fast… Basic questions are always the same and lot of members have already answers… And many times very good answers.
This basics knowledge could be share on wiki plate-forme...
other silly idea…🤯
Ask international recognition of our territory: the plastic continent. We have also to think about gouvernement, élection, money, flag… And annexion of it.
We are, as precious plastic community, the only ones to consider it as a valuable thing.
Of course by extension we will ask the participation of our athletes to the Olympics games.Toggle replies
I think the only way to make cheaper machines is to close the market. Appointing 1 person in each country that is responsible for selling only in your country. producing many machines in series is cheaper than doing 1, also shipping is cheaper within the country.
Prices must be recomended by PP cheaper as they can
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