Step #2 – Finding a piece of land
This topic is to discuss options to find a piece of land, i’m sure there are many places available but hard to find them all from a laptop in the Netherlands. This this topic is to share ideas, sites, listings, pictures of land that is available. You might even have a friend that has a piece available.
Specially in early stage we are quite easy, never bought a piece of land so would like to explore options. A few (flexible) guidelines though.
– Netherlands would be cool, otherwise or Europe.
– Close to an airport or train station (max 1,5 hour)
– Enough surrounding green land around it.
– River in it would be sick! Otherwise we will digg a lake 😀
– Possible to live there with multiple people
– Max €80K, i guess…
Hopefully you guys are able to help out! The person that finds the land gets its own statue with name on the land. Eternal Project Kamp fame ✌️
seems like cool if in indonesia…. but i dont have land that wide
Someday I’ll share the story of how I got here tonight, but it does seem like synchronicity. For about a year I have been researching intentional communities, and spent a long time searching online for land. What I’m hearing from people who have been successful in this process, however, is not to acquire land until you have built your community. I adore the concept of Project Kamp, but I’m unlikely to move to the Netherlands from the US. Here’s an idea … are there enough people interested in living in community to develop core working groups in a few locations to explore possibilities about eco-villages with recycling/workplace incubators? I would be happy to help facilitate the process of sharing ideas and options for multiple villages organized around the brilliant ideas I’ve read about in this discussion.
There are EU-subsidies (EAFRD, EFRO,..) for sustainable projects that provide grants up to 85% of the total project costs, incluiding the construction of a building. I’m currently working on a proposal for an off-grid eco-B&B in the south of Spain with the help of these funding mechanisms.
Also, after having built several windturbines, I am developing an open-source 3D-printable windturbine based on http://www.reprap-windturbine.com/ and https://www.otherpower.com/7footwindturbine.html.
I also build my own 4G-antennas (biquad, yagi,..).
In Russia, plots are distributed free of charge.
True, one must be a Russian or a Russian must submit an application.
Read here: https://tass.ru/v-strane/3988667
and here https: //xn--80aaggvgieoeoa2bo7l.xn--p1ai/
If this does not fit, then there is good land near us.
It is neither hot nor cold. Russia is an ideal place.
Here is the land that is for sale: https://realty.yandex.ru/dubna/kupit/uchastok/karta/?leftLongitude=37.182028&topLatitude=56.830804&rightLongitude=37.283823&bottomLatitude=56.797522
Here is a plot for 130,000 rubles (approximately 1793 euros) https://realty.yandex.ru/offer/6146710154798561025/
And here is a site by the river https://realty.yandex.ru/offer/4338530322567065601/ (270 000 ₽ – this is about 3724 Euro)
There is even better and more beautiful https://realty.yandex.ru/offer/7568655134463627331/ (but also more expensive).
hey Dave, we have a wonderful piece of land with gym swimming pool, library, fully equipped sports club with tennis and badminton courts.
The land is around a river and close to the plastic hub of India.
I will be willing to give away this land for free to you for your noble cause.
It is located 2 hours from Mumbai, India.
We our into plastic recycling and would be happy to help you!
Let me know!
I’m not sure where you’re at with the project, but I’m positive if we were to connect, we could combine resources and make some great progress together.
I am from Caldas da Rainha.
I am looking all over, now in the internet, I am waiting for some friends to do a road trip and talk directly with people. I know the area you were is the cheapest.
Do you have a private email?
I would love to know more about the process and what you want! what you asked to do in the land (if it is more than building and agriculture)
2 families here in Volos (central greece) has the same dream . it is difficult to find lake or river in greece but all the other criteria is ok. i will start searching for a land. if i find something of your liking in the area as a bonus you will have a super workshop for your projects.
The prices begins from something less than 1Euro/m2. with 2 to 4 euro/m2 you can find something not too far from the city. most of the land is with olive trees. very little areas are bigger than 30.000m2. For myself i am searching something near the city . in the link you can have an idea about what is for sale
The actual land situation is mainly described on the monthly news
Where are you from? Where are you looking for a land?
Actually we are waiting for some boring stuff like municipality replies about some lands, but mainly the one which is on the video, for knowing if we are going to be able to do what we want. Still with the eyes open if another oportunity appears but focused there
Hello everyone, I am new here but I foud this project so fascinating that I wanted to colab.
In a previous post frogfall talks abput using an already used but abandoned area and I think that it is a great idea, easiy archievable in Spain. Here exist the option of buying abandoned villages. I mean, not buying the individual houses or lands but the complete village as a hole including the sourroundings.
It has the advantage that the land is already ready to build and farm and the comunications to the main citys around already exist. Also this option will provide a lot of building materials that can be recicled from previous edifications and you can rebuild as work or comunal space old stone churches.
I leave you a link were you can check some of those villages
I hope it is helpfull
Dave Dave! Can we apply to collaborate in kamp? I would like to work there.
ive got some land in the US…..lets do this.
Have you checked Alicante?
– Netherlands would be cool, otherwise or Europe. – Not Netherlands.. but nice weather
– Close to an airport or train station (max 1,5 hour) – Airport just there with cheap flights from Europe
– Enough surrounding green land around it. – Lots of land, but only green if you water it. Ideal weather for agriculture.
– River in it would be sick! Otherwise we will digg a lake. – There is a beach
– Possible to live there with multiple people. You can find massive pieces of land.
– Max €80K, i guess… or probably a lot less
@acoira, thanks for the info. I was just worried because the recent video showed the typical desert I know from Spain, a nogo to me. Looks also extreme rocky there . this could go insane expensive to build, I also hope you have a real well (s) at least, especially if you wanna make it that big 🙂 I would also highly recommend to take an expert there to investigate the state of the soil, regardless you could recover it some time. Good luck, so PP v5 comes in 15 years then 🙂
Gracias David! Es un terreno muy pequeño para el proyecto, el terreno para Project Kamp debería andar sobre las 10 hectáreas o más.
Maybe is this a good property. It got 2 rivers, 6 hectares and the price is 80k.
I have found on the internet 3 houses with large pieces of land ( 4,5 hectare for 55000 EUR, 7,4 hectares for 79000 EUR, 6 hectares for 80000 EUR)
The site is in dutch or French ( google translate can help you) but if you want to search at your own for a piece of land you can search ‘para venda hectares’
thanks for sharing your wits buddy – from my experience in spain empty houses tend to be “ruinas” and although they look attractive you usually cant get a (re)building permit the last i heard – and noticed enough desparados willing to rip off an unsuspecting potential buyer who hasnt done their homework 😉
interestingly, some of the vacant houses/ruinas in the almeria area are even said to date from the civil war era
the info about the taberna’s desert being the only real desert in europe is actually sourced from the Andalucian government – please let me know if that info isnt correct (however,from experience seeing is believing 😉
If you have any constructive input or links regarding permaculture projects…please do feel free to share
maybe also of general (educational) interest is this idylically located project in spain http://www.sunseed.org.uk/blogs/
this area is the only true desert in europe…..mindblowing nature,geology & history
…and the most honest tapas on the iberian peninsula – YUM!
I don’t post usually in this thread, but let you know that we are also trying a similar project in Spain. At the moment we are not searching for a land, but we are creating a website and also researching on renewable energy project that is not dependent of solar light and/or wind.
It’s good to see how this thread is getting higher activity. That means there are more and more interested members.
Thanks for the positive reaction guys – long live evolution…i would have trouble just remembering 40 peoples names – so hats off there already
unfortunately i missed a visit to PP during DDW (but got a speeding ticket racing back from berlin to catch the last hours if intention counts for anything ;(
we still have find back the land details (it was a while back) but have good foto’s and film i could show when i drop by …by coincidence i’l be attending a seminar today in veghel called “future of plastics” – so if its convenient for you guys it would suit me well to drop by afterwards later today (and btw – it might also be possible for one of your dutch speaking members to make a last minute attendance by mailing [email protected]…just in case 😉
i dont have any info about your address/opening hours – so if you have a link or info its also possible to mail me on [email protected]
looking forward to dropping by – and your culinary curiosity is highly valued ! 😉
Hey all! Hehe thanks for the thought @freiblick.
And @terryball, very good points, thanks a lot!
That piece of land sounds very interesting to us indeed, could you send me some more details about it? I’m currently in charge of looking into properties, so always open for input and ideas 🙂
And feel free to come around, we’re curious about the vegan kebabs & superchoc recipes!
good questions @terryball. I think the core of kamp is still shaping as we go.. Even now we learn a lot living/working with 40 people from around the world to develop pp V4. Did you end up dropping by at the open day? I know it would make sense for me to reply here, but so many questions, more fun to answer afk 🙂
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Hi!! You should contact Earthship Biotecture. They build almost entirely with recycled materials and they do wonderful off grid buildings. They have similar projects and some offgrid communities thriving already! Actually, there’s one starting right now in Peru, in the Sacred Valley. If you want more information ask me. 🙂
My mail: [email protected]
Loved your video, really in line with what I’m in the process of creating with a group of likeminded people, and I love how you bring it. It inspires me to do something similar.
Second, if you’d like to talk about who you want to do this, and to see if perhaps we can find each other in a collaboration, let me know. You’ve got my email.
Third, I’m curious about the online sharing you wish to undertake, as it is something I’m keen on doing as well. So, see ‘Second’ :-).
All the best!
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