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working with PET Bottles

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Johe Bruneau tafnstuff

working with PET Bottles

18/04/2017 at 15:38

Hi Folks!

Maybe you experienced, maybe you didn’t but it is quite difficult to use PET to work with Dave’s machines… Also there are a lot of tutorials on the internet which shows some easy way to work with plastic bottles to get some strings or to use it as connectors… The purpose of this topic is to share these experiments and see if we can go furtherĀ !

1 Plastic bottle stringĀ :

I found three kinds of DIY plastic bottle cutterĀ :

1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7sS0nTnU70 ( So soĀ : difficult to hold the bottle and to pull the string in the same time)

2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpNL4RRPgHE&t=10s ( BadĀ : difficult to put the bottle in the slot, the string often breaks and it gets blocked inside )

3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zqp_zA6m-w&t=6s ( my favorite )

I invite you to make your own opinion šŸ™‚

This compagny is selling its own plastic bottle cutter, the video is interesting because it gives quickly examples about how you can use the string you do:

How to make a strong rope with several plastic bottle stringsĀ :

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18/04/2017 at 16:31
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2 Basketry with plastic bottle string

I did some tests using our new string for basketry. I think there is a real potential to get some lightweight and strong item ! (furniture for instance)

I did some frames in metal and tried different ways to weave around.
In a second time I used a heatgun to stretch the strings and get a surface smoother and stronger.

However I noticed 3 bad points:

– When I used the heatgun, the plastic shrinks and it twisted the metal frame ! šŸ™
if i do not use the heat gun, the result is to rough.

– On the pyramid picture, the faces were full but after the plastic shrank, i got some space at the bottom.

– the knots I did when I need to attach a new string ( to change the color for instance) are too fat, I burnt them with a lighter to get them smaller, but still they are.

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20/04/2017 at 12:03
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3 ā€“ Shrinking power/strong>
I keep doing some tests with PET Bottles, I found this really interesting video made by Micaella Pedros, showing how to use bottles to make some kind of connectors to build any kind of thingĀ !

So, with the heat, the plastic is shrinking and can take a print. It reminds me the process of a thermoforming machine.

The process I want test isĀ :
– to cut the bottom or / and the top of the bottle
– to put a mold into
– to use the heat gun to make the plastic shrink around the shape.

I would like to make simple objects like mobile phone’s protections, boxes ( could be nice to use plastique bottle to make packaging), little toy cars ā€¦ Have you got any ideas about simple objects in everyday lifeĀ ?

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26/04/2017 at 14:38
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Next step:

First results, I tried the Ā«Ā shrinking castingĀ Ā» on different shapes and materials.
My first conclusions areĀ :
– The outside edges and the plane surfaces give a good result while the inside edges, the recesses are allmost impossible to get.
-The plastic shrinks very randomly around the openings I did in the bottle. The plastic wasn’t closing in on the model.
– About the materials, I tried with clay, plaster, wood and metal. I recommend wood, and metal, because plaster and clay are too weak, and you might break your mold when you try to take it off the bottle.

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26/04/2017 at 14:40
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Mobile protection

I randomly tried with an old phone to make shrink a bottle around, i’ve been pleasantly surprisedĀ ! It is at least as much strong an transparent that a normal protection.

Then, I cut a piece of wood with the same width and thickness than my phone, but longer because as i experienced before the openings are very rough, i cut the length i need in a second time ( i kept 15mm on the top to cut a tab that i will fold onto the top of phone to protect its side. Next i drilled the holes for each button, the camera. It’s difficult to clean the border, after using my Dremel to drill the holes, i tried to sand it ā€¦ the result was dirty. The best way to have clean opening is to work with sharp tools ( cutter, scissors… ).

Finally get itĀ ! If you use a thin plastic bottle, you can keep the protection on your screen, the tactile still is working through itĀ ! However it took me too much time to do only one protection, the finishes take a while and the result will never be as perfect as the cheap protection you buy on the market for a few coinĀ . šŸ™ I still believe there must be better applicationsĀ !

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26/04/2017 at 18:28
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Hi, i am also doing a lot of expiriments with PET. The biggest project is using those strings for building a bamboo bicycle. We built a very simple cutter and the last two weeks i spent in Uganda training locals to build an develope them further.

We were also working a lot with PET in the Injection mashine and it wasn’t even that bad. It did not turn out as well as other plastics but the first tests turned out better than we thouht.

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18/05/2017 at 19:40
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@soeren Congrats!

Do you use a heat gun to add the PET to the Bicycle?

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dedicated
18/05/2017 at 21:59
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great write up @tafnstuff. That plastic string has a surprising amount of pressure! Perhaps chloroform or acetone could also be used to bond and smooth PET forms.

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19/05/2017 at 00:14
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Hi – yea i used a heat gun – but we also tried it with ocal charcoalovens in uganda and it worked.

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01/06/2017 at 01:41
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Once I saw on a tv show about agriculture here in Brazil
That a guy use pet bottles to make fence poles.
He use bamboo covered with cylinders of bottles and uses a heater to shrink the plastic.

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01/06/2017 at 01:44
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http://revistagloborural.globo.com/vida-na-fazenda/como-fazer/noticia/2013/12/como-fazer-bambu-plastificado.html

It’s in Portuguese but have illustrations which helps to understand.

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02/06/2017 at 18:11
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hello i love what you are doing!

HEATING BOTTLES FOR NEW SHAPES USING HEAT GUN (I CALL IT “BALLOONING”)

here is an idea i have:
i made a collapsable/pocket shape made from a “reusable oven liner” made from PTFE coated non stick fabric which withstands temperature upto 260Ā°C.

i used black duct tape to join the shapes together to make a new hollow bottle shape which is smaller than the bottle.
then i insert it into the larger bottle and keep it hanging using a long screw which goes through the bottle neck and neck of the shape i have created keeping it suspended inside the bottle.

after i have inserted it into the bottle i fill my hollow shape with sand (future tests will try using air like a balloon or other materials) then the shape inside the bottle is heavy, full and slightly heat proof.

then heat is added from outside and the plastic bottle should wrap around the shape. allow to cool down and pour all the sand back out and then pull the balloon/pocket (oven liner) out! i hope this makes sense any questions please ask!

this was a 5litre bottle made into something like a 2ltr bottle, this is a prototype but the concept is what i was trying to show

Peace

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02/06/2017 at 18:27
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Thanks for your feedbacks !

I found some other characteristics about the PET bottle shrinking:

– First : Do not stay to long at the same place with the heatgun, PET is melting quite fast and it is becoming opaque and bubbly quickly ! ( especially at the bottom which is thicker )

– If you thermoforme several bottles around the same shape, it won’t fuse, so then you can get sizes fitting one inside the other.

-It’s easy to fold PET, so it can be a way to get clean closures.

the result on the pictures :

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02/06/2017 at 18:33
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Would be nice if plastic Bottle could be reused as packaging !

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03/06/2017 at 14:30
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Here’s a handheld bottle rope stripper that I built as a smaller part of a topic for my Design Academy Eindhoven portfolio about half a year ago. It cuts bottles into 8mm rope.

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12/06/2017 at 20:56
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Instead of buying nets for the improvised football goals at our school, we ( Green Team, a ecological club) made them from bottles. 20 bottles for each net approx 2×2 meters. No shrinking needed for this application, just hours of tying knots. It is a great thing to have in the middle of the playground to help students see something our group has worked on.

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16/06/2017 at 07:16
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Chech this out. The video is in russian, be the process of creating plastic tubes from PRT bottles are prety simple. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tALW2Nik9aw .

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18/06/2017 at 21:16
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@nate22re Would you be willing to share your method for making the netting?

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19/06/2017 at 07:53
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This guy also have great vedio about how to knit belts or something like that on his channal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYH93Ad_pa8 how to knot chains from plastic line
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Qa3FqEio-4&t=2s belts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUHmu6tEgxI another channal, bad quality but informative. how to make strong rope from PET

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20/06/2017 at 19:27
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@snowpoff I have no problem sharing, I followed this video to get the idea and I just made it bigger. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRJLAac86hg I cut the bottles to make a thick string so it would not break with the footballs. Joining new string was easy as well when the string got too short, just include another string in the last knot you can make with the one that is getting too short and you can extend it as much as you want. Hope it helps. My students are thinking about making an instructable about it but it won’t be posted for a while, maybe a few weeks.

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23/06/2017 at 11:22
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This Russian guy is not kidding about how to recycle PET bottles !

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helper
23/06/2017 at 14:38
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Yeh! He has new version of chains he said that it can withstand more than 110 kg (bacause his scales can’t weigh more than 110)

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06/07/2017 at 12:31
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And here is some new vid about nets from that russian guy

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