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I’m not sure on the type you would need for outdoors but if you know more let me know.
In terms of using your grill toaster, I would take as many precautions as possible, you are dealing with various polymers here and they produce volatile gases when heated at certain temperatures. The PP guys are starting to look into this as they mentioned in their monthly update video, so be careful out there! Plus I would look into the different plastics and their characteristics (i.e. what temperature they melt at, burn at etc.). PP have all of that in their starter pack.
If the answer to the durability question is to use LDPE plastic then I would recommend you have a look at this guy who tested plastic in this home with grill toaster. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Q19Yxscy0U
Hope this helps. Keep marching on!
Good to hear you are finding ways to try and reduce waste!
So there’s a bunch of projects out there that build houses or shelters with bricks made out of plastic waste. The one that has received quite a lot of attention recently is ByFusion (https://www.byfusion.com/). They have a system where you don’t have to seperate or wash the plastic, just compressed and watered down into a brick (not entirely familiar with the process). The system they use can fit in a container and looks fairly cheap to build.
However my concerns are in terms of sustainability of the bricks. When you use all sorts of plastics and don’t wash them of their contamination you tend to get a lower quality product and could degrade quicker over time. I do hope I am wrong though because I love the idea.
If you google bricks made out of plastic waste you’ll see a few projects out there. One of them is somewhere in South Africa and they produce some super high quality roof tiles.
Good luck with your project, if you come up with a potential solution that you think is viable please do share it with us! We are always looking for innovative young thinkers who have a fresh pair of eyes 🙂
Super cool advice thanks, van life is on the rise at the moment for sure!
It’s a little hard at the moment to identify who exactly is my customer, I’m still trying to figure that out.
So the plan is to be a Lean as possible when I start, making sheets a 3 cms thick in high volume then making cuts for all sorts of applications such as bathroom tiles, roof tiles, table tops, kitchen top and van tops too. I’m thinking if I make the sheets then I can easily cut them into whatever I think the market wants or needs. It will allow to test everything out and see what sells best.
All left overs from the cuts can go back into the manufacturing process.
Haha I see what you mean. I was thinking of passing beams of HDPE into the table top to make it stronger but recycling that would be a nightmare.
Would you have any book recommendations ?
I have thought about that but the problem is then the plastic doesn’t become recyclable anymore once I mix it with other stuff.
LDPE gives out a good finish and if my process is correct I won’t need to polish it and all
Yeah I imagine, I’m thinking LDPE because there’s tones of it everywhere.
These guys have managed to make a table out of LDPE for a design conference or something similar…
No I haven’t just yet, have been looking at lot online, people making chopping boards and plates. They seem pretty sturdy.
In terms of design, that’s a good point. We will try to use a old table feets for now, taken from old tables. Metal over wood
Yes saw that video, Jaden seems like such a cool dude. 300kg is a big big table, there’s no forum article for how they made right?
Do you have any pictures of your set up?
Really cool idea, like @imuh said, you do need to make sure you are dealing with the same plastic types, you can usually know what they are by looking at their recycling symbol. They all have a different melting temperature, who knows you might find some new way of blending it all together.
Definitely keep us updated, looking forward to seeing what comes out of it!
Good idea! I don’t think the air quality when you use the shredder would be that great though….
Try organizing a little meet up and drinks with the local precious plastic guys. Up in Scotland, I’ve met quite a few people on here and we’ve discussed what we can do. One guy has offered his shed for us to set up our machines!
If you were to set up a proper workshop, you will need funds, as some of the guys mentioned, around 10k euros. But remember the EU is pushing hard to reduce plastic and there’s some money out there you can get if you push hard enough plus crowdfunding for these types of initiatives are good too.
Try out loads of options and be open to suggestions! We are all in the same boat.
Hope this helps
Yeah I’m going to look into negotiating with the waste to energy facilities to have a partnership where I’ll provide them with the waste plastic for a fee. Probably won’t make much money at all, but need the government to back me up with initial funds and subsidize me.
The ideal solution would be to turn the plastic into some other raw material… this guys on Trashopolis is transforming plastic back into petrol or other raw materials, it’s an expensive process but probably quite sustainable.
link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ2NzpG_gQ8 at 39:00 minutes
His site looks god awful but it’s here – http://stepsindia.in/
We need to act as soon as possible with a large scale operation, the garbage patch is getting bigger and we are seeing more and more plastic in our blood stream.
You’ve come to right place, we are all motivated to solve this problem.
I know there’s a few organisations out there providing homes for the poor with plastic waste:
My favorite : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfWBhNhZuzY
On this site, you’ll find loads of blue prints on how to start your own little recycling workshop. I guess you could start from there and look to build bricks or pannels and then scale it up to the supply you’re collecting.
There’s a bunch of challenges attached to these, like some the guys said before you need to appeal to the general public. Once of the strategies is to provide quality products, only mentioning on a secondary basis the product is made from recycled plastics. There’s a washing up liquid brand (which I forgot the name of it) who focused on using natural products instead of chemical ones. Advertising this as a benefit to the customer (i.e. “your hands will thank you for it” etc.) instead of mentioning the environmental aspect first. You need to try and identify that to scale your project further.
I love the initiative and want to hear more about this so please share your details with us all, we will support you!
Keep going and let’s keep the 7 mile miracle clean and alive (especially pipeline ;p)
Awesome mate! I really like the concept.
If this kind of talent you built up an entire workspace like that!
Keep it up