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Really interesting, looks very practical. Thanks for sharing your work and knowledge.
One of the things that impacts a lot of the precious plastic work is the potential for toxin release from melting the plastic.
On the video there seems to be a fair amount of steam coming off that. Did you notice any smell or have thoughts on the toxin release from this open air approach?
This could be a really valuable part of the Precious plastic toolkit. It opens lots of doors.
Is there a development timeline somewhere for this / V4 in general? Or an informal estimate on when this might be available and the cost to make it.
Much of the statement on the problems I agree with, the question is perhaps one of what is the solution?
The RSA have some great podcasts which discuss this. Including discussion on the illusion of meritocracy and problems with technocratic neoliberal capitalism and much more. One of the first ones is on youtube here https://youtu.be/qOP2V_np2c0 the podcast is on here soundcloud https://soundcloud.com/the_rsa
On solutions, Greta Thunberg and many others talk about a circular economy. A completely different paradigm to our current abstractive system. I think it’s fair to say PreciousPlastics is a part of that. Unfortunately the economics of recycling are volatile and community scale even more so. However, many of us have been working on a business model and there is some potential. If optical sorting works, then it might not be long before PreciousPlastics could be supporting basic wages. In more dramatic terminology, PreviousPlastic is building up a new economic system while the old one still exists. But to make that sustainable, people need a low cost of living, which is where project Kamp could come in.
My main work and interest is in climate change, decades of neglect certainly give reason for outrage. However I also see reason for optimism. We see Marie Kondo’s approach (basically minimalism), becoming incredibly popular. With minimalism being perhaps a practical alternative at a personal level to hyper-consumption which had somehow become the norm. We are now seeing ‘thrift’ stores, aka vintage or second-hand growing faster than fast-fashion in the
states. There are signs of progress.
We do need to engage with the current system, we need PP to be able to offer employment, we need it to work at scale to address the seriousness of the plastic problem. Remembering that 90% of biodiversity loss is from extractive industries, by avoiding anything new. Working towards not needing to extract any more oil for plastic and instead simple utilising what has already been extracted would create a radically different world. People living in a sustainable way, such as in project Kamp and equivalents means people moving away from corporations and their greed. There is a lot of work on intentional communities which can be learnt from to save time and resources. It could be a centre for learning aswell as living, therefore engaging a wider audience and supporting wider change.
There are many steps in creating an equitable and sustainable future. A circular economy including community action such as Precious Plastic is one, sustainable living such as project Kamp another. Developing new economic systems and lobbying for them (i.e. Green New Deal) are all part of the same story.
Creating viable alternatives is a strong part of addressing the challenges of our time. Creating alternatives and implementing them as people are doing here is even better.
Wow, just read through the 170 replies.
Great to see so many people from all over the world working together on this and adding their ideas. Sounds like there are lots of similar “kamps”, sustainable communities (maybe) planned all over.
I know that the Precious Plastics team are looking in Castelo Branco, Portugal.
Though as this post is such a reference, I think you may be interested in the “One Planet Development” rules in Wales in the UK. There is planning permissions especially designed for those who want to live a sustainable ‘one planet’ lifestyle. You can build on ‘green open space’ which sounds similar to what project kamp is trying to do.
Wales has sustainability written into it’s constitution, the one planet development policy is part of “one planet, one wales” and they also have ‘the future generations act’ to consider the future in policy today. It’s also very beautiful.
There is an organisation setup to help people one Planet Developments at http://www.oneplanetcouncil.org.uk
You may also be interested in the Centre for Alternative Technology, setup in the 70’s with very similar aims to Project Kamp. It now has a visitor centre, activities for children and school and even runs Masters degrees. I did my masters there and have done my own eco refurbishment of a house in the nearby town. The website is – http://www.cat.org.uk If you visit, I’m happy to give you a tour.
Hi Jomin, yes that would be useful, thank you.
Is this one that you have used?
Just bumping my own post as I see in monthly news12 that somebody has done this.
The guys from China.
They don’t mention the shredder, but the one below looks similar, about £2k.
How are you getting on?
Are you looking to build the machines yourself?
On minimum space, each of the four machines is about half a meter square by the looks of it. So a large shed with the machines around the outside might fit things in but of course you need space for storing the plastic as well.
Have you tried talking to the council? A lot of council’s would be supportive and while they have little money they may be able to provide some space.
All the best, Martin
Hi, there are loads of ways of building sustainably. Straw bale buildings are one of the best ways, these can be finished with Earthen plasters so that you get a really nice finish and also have a well insulated building, with good design you can make this passive solar so that it in many climates it doesn’t even need heating or cooling most the time.
Plastic on the outside, i.e. tiles can be useful as it can be long lasting and also being outside you don’t have to worry about the off gasses i.e. toxins entering the house.
Check out http://www.cat.org.uk